<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post114082293431797879..comments</id><updated>2011-12-01T10:40:17.367-03:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on GoodAirs: More than a bad translation of "Buenos Aires": Discrimination in Argentina</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.goodairs.com/feeds/114082293431797879/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html'/><author><name>Team Good Airs</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03415898744410787600</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>25</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-3334034868362483050</id><published>2011-07-22T14:08:13.550-03:00</published><updated>2011-07-22T14:08:13.550-03:00</updated><title type='text'>Respondo para la puta que dijo que tenia un mono, ...</title><content type='html'>Respondo para la puta que dijo que tenia un mono, un animal como hijo. Nosotros acá no queremos negros, la gran mayoría de las argentinas tanto de capital como provincia desprecian a los negros y no les parecen atractivos. Así que querida yankee porque no vas a estudiar con tu mono español a España? y te dejas de joder, o te vas a África a vivir y festejar la miseria y el SIDA?.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Y esa boludez de que Argentina es racista y el resto del mundo no es es puro chamullo. Cuando fui a Mississippi, Kansas , Florida y Georgia pude ver y apreciar la constante tensión entre blancos , negros y latinos, es mas yo y mi grupo fuimos insultados varias veces por negros, que nos llamaban &amp;quot;Crackers&amp;quot;. Lo mismo si vas a África, en Nairobi casi hacen desaparecer a una amiga por ser blanca. Dejense de joder yankees del orto y para todas las putas que se entregan a negros sepan que ustedes no merecen mas que la muerte.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asi que querida te deseo que vos tu &amp;quot;descendencia europea&amp;quot; tu negro y tu otro negro tengan una vida muy corta y miserable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Saludos y vayanse todos a la puta madre que los pario !</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/3334034868362483050'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/3334034868362483050'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1311354493550#c3334034868362483050' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1737725110'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-6710268156855639029</id><published>2010-04-27T20:22:09.151-03:00</published><updated>2010-04-27T20:22:09.151-03:00</updated><title type='text'>I am Argentine by birth and of Caucasian European ...</title><content type='html'>I am Argentine by birth and of Caucasian European ancestry.  For many here to say that we are racist is to not understand the true identity of the Argentine person.  We were born within a society (and particularly those born in  Buenos Aires, like myself -- which has been and continues to be, the cultural and economic center of the country), whose identity was formed primarily by European customs and mores.  This is evident in our manner of speech, dress, socializing, thinking, etc. etc.,  brought along by those who immigrated to Argentina.  These European immigration waves were so vast that the majority of our population is actually descended from these Europeans of many different nationalities.  Furthermore, Argentina for many decades did not sustain immigration from other countries other than those of Europe, Armenia, and Japan. Given this reality and the lack of Afro peoples,  added to the already reduced indigenous populations in the Northern part of Argentina,  have contributed to an identity that thinks of itself mostly as European.  And, what is wrong with that?  Nothing. If you speak of true discrimination, one must speak of the United States of America, arguably  the most racially biased country in the world.  Take a look at the Census form of 2010 and its attempt to label everyone and fit them within pseudo- categories that are neither ethnic nor racial. A person who speaks Spanish is automatically HISPANIC, regardless of whether that person&amp;#39;s race is actually Afro, Caucasian or Asian. Just because that person was born in a Spanish-speaking country, right?  Let&amp;#39;s go on.  The United States, for whom blacks continue to be regarded as second class citizens or third class citizens, is a racially discriminatory nation.  Yes, open discrimination is unlawful in the States; that is why  it is more of the &amp;quot;closeted&amp;quot; discrimination type.  Tell me any other nation where even its own Caucasian people who are mostly poor, less educated and primarily from the South -- although this applies to any territory within the Union actually, -- are labeled  White Trash or Trailer Trash.  I would like to know.  Insofar as Argentina is concerned,  let us Argentines be.  We are a tolerant people, and those racial barriers others ( who are not Argentine and who do not share in our national identity),  want to erect for the simple reason that we are a Latin American country made-up mainly of descendants of Europeans, simply have no merit.  To understand an Argentine one must be Argentine.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/6710268156855639029'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/6710268156855639029'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1272410529151#c6710268156855639029' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-485730911'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-7069723864299159006</id><published>2009-12-25T14:05:05.867-03:00</published><updated>2009-12-25T14:05:05.867-03:00</updated><title type='text'>I&amp;#39;m sorry to reply so late, but I just came ac...</title><content type='html'>I&amp;#39;m sorry to reply so late, but I just came across this site.  I cannot believe this last comment:  &amp;#39;In Argentina when you say that someone is &amp;quot;un negro&amp;quot;, you are not taking into account the colour of his/her skin, you are making reference to a rude attitude or negative way of beheaving. &amp;#39;  &lt;br /&gt;You can&amp;#39;t be serious. That IS racism. That&amp;#39;s all it is. If that person is not behaving correctly why do you have to use a skin-colour? Why not mention his/her attitude. What about &amp;#39;cabecitas negras&amp;#39;? &lt;br /&gt;I am from Argentina, and my best friend who looks like one of those &amp;#39;negros&amp;#39; you are talking about, even when he doesn&amp;#39;t dress or behave like one is always kicked out of clubs or not even allowed in because the colour of his skin. They always have an excuse  not to let him in. So I know that both discrimanation and racism exist in Argentina. Not in an openly way, but more like a subtle way. Just like you are doing. We do not accept differences  in either religions views, skin-coulour, sexuality, political views, etc.  And I know that not everyone in this country behaves like this but I cannot deny that most argentinians have nazi-like thoughts, and by this I mean the superiosity of a nation or a race. &lt;br /&gt;I really apologize for those who come to Argentina and feel any kind of discrimination, I think our ignorant society doesn&amp;#39;t know how to embrace differences and even celebrate them&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Juan Manuel.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/7069723864299159006'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/7069723864299159006'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1261760705867#c7069723864299159006' title=''/><author><name>PuberJMP</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03504730578134185978</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1385736895'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-3129933652357682381</id><published>2008-06-28T15:51:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2008-06-28T15:51:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi,&lt;br&gt;I am an Argentinian and let me tell you tha...</title><content type='html'>Hi,&lt;BR/&gt;I am an Argentinian and let me tell you that this is the first time I hear so sad comments on us. I don´t consider myself a racist, but I am not going to tell you that there is no discrimination in my country. &lt;BR/&gt;I am absolutely sure that we are not europeans, in fact many of them are really cruel with a lot of Argentinians in their own countries.&lt;BR/&gt;What I believe is that in Argentina to be not only poor, but also an uneducated person with bad manners is totally disgusting. In Argentina when you say that someone is "un negro", you are not taking into account the colour of his/her skin, you are making reference to a rude attitude or negative way of beheaving. On the other side, if you call someone "negro" you can even be saying that nicely, showing that you love him/her.&lt;BR/&gt;Anyway, I don't remember myself or friends or relatives discriminating people in the way many of you mention that we usually do.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/3129933652357682381'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/3129933652357682381'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1214679060000#c3129933652357682381' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-173495027'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-342627078519627482</id><published>2008-03-22T15:17:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2008-03-22T15:17:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>Ok that last comment is pretty rediculous. i'm fro...</title><content type='html'>Ok that last comment is pretty rediculous. i'm from the united states and believe me, there is lots of sick racism here. white trash country folk who have confederate flags in their windows? (for those who don't know, confederate flag is the old flag of the southern states that had slavery)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;also, some black americans are so sick of being victims to white racism that they become racist themselves. unfortunate.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;in los angeles, there is a lot of tension between mexican immigrants and the rest of the white/black communities...infringement issues and such. my point is only that there are racial tensions wherever you go..unfortunately. even in countries like the united states that in alot of ways is very open minded and the great melting pot of humanity, there are still racial tensions. sad but true.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I have to say the argentine differences i'm reading about sound unique and kind of useless. if the rich are so arrogant, yet don't advance themselves and are rich from inheritance, that is trashy. i believe in working for your status. and actually, what you possess doesn't make who you are.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;i'm just rambling...but i guess my point is that racism is stupid and whatever form it comes in, there's always an easy way to understand those idiot's point of view, which just makes them look like bigger idiots.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;thanks.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/342627078519627482'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/342627078519627482'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1206209820000#c342627078519627482' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1501603164'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-6668116832322013480</id><published>2008-03-10T14:36:00.000-02:00</published><updated>2008-03-10T14:36:00.000-02:00</updated><title type='text'>Is true, argentinians are racists, and is the only...</title><content type='html'>Is true, argentinians are racists, and is the only country in the world that that happens. Is not human nature, is an argentinian thing. Americans, Mexicans, Europeans, everyone else embrace the entire world, except the argentinians. They are the only racisist in the world, everyone else are brothers and sisters of Mother Teresa...</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/6668116832322013480'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/6668116832322013480'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1205166960000#c6668116832322013480' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-957542744'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-2402878748513358479</id><published>2007-09-24T13:27:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2007-09-24T13:27:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>Sadly, Argentina is now a land of imported &amp;amp; m...</title><content type='html'>Sadly, Argentina is now a land of imported &amp; misplaced people who do not by ANY means belong to South America. They are rude, arrogant, corrupt and racist to say the least. The original and largely extinct Argentinians were the original people of that land . It is now a country of immigrants who have no connection to the South American continent and should be deported back to where they came from.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/2402878748513358479'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/2402878748513358479'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1190651220000#c2402878748513358479' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1602971238'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-4064199878545456451</id><published>2007-08-26T05:18:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2007-08-26T05:18:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>I like Argentina and the Argentines, but it is a c...</title><content type='html'>I like Argentina and the Argentines, but it is a country that has to believe its own lies so that they can figure out their place in the world.  Sure, it's a European country, but so are most of the countries in the Americas.  Afterall, the Americas were colonized by European powers, speak primarily romance and anglo languages, are either Catholic or Protestant and have European legal systems, but so what, most people are still mixed - slavs with anglos, anglos with amerindians, blacks and whites, etc.  Argentina is no different.  Have you been to Corrientes or Posadas?  Most of the street aren't even paved!  Maybe Argentines say they are European country, they mean medieval European country. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I hate it when Argentines denigrate, "los indios" or "los cabecitas negras".  They need to look deep into their own bloodlines and deep into the roots of their "blond" women, most of whom bleach their hair to be blonds.  Their disdain for the poor also shocks me.  Most of the poor that I have met there are extremely hard working (considering they live in a feudal society, they have to work extra hard for very little).  They are not lazy or dangerous, they just don't have opportunities.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The biggest problem in Argentina is that it's run by an "elite" that is for the most part mediocre.  They know how to hang on to their money and power, but they don't do much of anything to advance the society.  Outside of the wealthy neighborhoods of Buenos Aires, Argentina is just another Latin American country, a pigmentocracy, class concious society, hypocrical and in denial, more interested in promoting a false mythology about themselves then progressing in any real way.  It saddens me, but that is Argentina.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/4064199878545456451'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/4064199878545456451'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1188116280000#c4064199878545456451' title=''/><author><name>Rubic</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04968922042373247540</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1368735030'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-5059105719512327881</id><published>2007-04-27T20:19:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2007-04-27T20:19:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>Hello, I stumbled upon your site by accident, but ...</title><content type='html'>Hello, I stumbled upon your site by accident, but boy do I love this discussion. My mother is argentinian of german-jewish descent (her family was allowed into argentina during the holocaust) and my father is afro-mexican. I feel like I identify definately as racially mixed. My mother has never expressed any negative racial ideology towards mestizos, africans, asians, or whites. My mothers family is pure of such feelings as well, going as far as to completely embracing my father, never pushing him out for being of african descent. I am not sure if other argentinians would do this though, and I have heard my mom speak of many racist tensions back home. When I visited my moms home in buenos aires eight years ago I was warmly received, but otherwise do not remember too much. Now that I am older and concious to these racial tensions being suffered in argentina as your discussion points scares me because I will be visiting for a month this summer...</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/5059105719512327881'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/5059105719512327881'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1177715940000#c5059105719512327881' title=''/><author><name>jewbycakes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02598740116356122565</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://myspace-520.vo.llnwd.net/01557/02/59/1557929520_l.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1093013804'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-3356048192046495888</id><published>2007-04-11T15:25:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2007-04-11T15:25:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>Argentines are PIGS!!  Racist, arrogant pr*cks who...</title><content type='html'>Argentines are PIGS!!  Racist, arrogant pr*cks who are slowly being overrun by other races though.  It will be good for them to wake up one day and realize that there are other races and nationalities in the world and they will then be forced to deal with them!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/3356048192046495888'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/3356048192046495888'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1176315900000#c3356048192046495888' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-673273255'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-116184206259289263</id><published>2006-10-26T02:54:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-10-26T02:54:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>I am a student who came to BsAs to complete my dip...</title><content type='html'>I am a student who came to BsAs to complete my diploma in Spanish language, and brought my 13 year old son with me to have what I thought would be for us both an enjoying and fabulous experience. Well it has been an experience to say the least, i am of european descent, but as my son's father is a black African, and my son  he has suffered much abuse at the hands of his class mates in a private school and from the general public. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt; Never before have we encountered such open racism, &lt;BR/&gt;and I will be happy to finnish my studies and return home, where discrimination is not accepted as it is here in Bs As.&lt;BR/&gt;I have met several African American students  who are eager to return home and in fact regret having come to study in Buenos Aires as i now do myself.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/116184206259289263'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/116184206259289263'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1161842040000#c116184206259289263' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-256069821'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-115881681693439029</id><published>2006-09-21T02:33:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-09-21T02:33:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>Check out Amy Chua's book *WORLD ON FIRE* which ex...</title><content type='html'>Check out Amy Chua's book *WORLD ON FIRE* which examines race, class and ethnic hatred around the world, as well as denial of said racism, classism and hatred even when riots and outright ethnic murder occurs. Chua is a professor at Yale University Law School and began to write the book after her aunt was murdered in the Philippines--in large part because her aunt, as an ethnic Chinese, was scapegoated for the economic problems and economic inequality in the Philippines. Chua's book is very balanced and informative. She also discusses some of the denial has encountered while reseaching her book, specifically from Argentinian students  who claim their country has no racism because everyone is *mixed* yet they refuse to see that they as light-skinned, straight-haired Argentinians (who would be considered white or pass as such in the U.S.) they benefit from assumptions about race and class that put them at the top of the class pyramid. They believe they are there due to merit alone. But *merit* is a loaded term when it is concentrated amongst people of a single ethnicity--or appearance of one--as Chua points out.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/115881681693439029'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/115881681693439029'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1158816780000#c115881681693439029' title=''/><author><name>SanFranReader</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1533942739'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-115881231553630525</id><published>2006-09-21T01:18:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-09-21T01:18:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>i am the friend of entry´s author from above.  i h...</title><content type='html'>i am the friend of entry´s author from above.  i had written this before my said friend directed me to your extremely insightful site.  in light of my experience here, i´m terribly glad i wasn´t being delusional.....&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Enjoy (figuratively):  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;"i was chatting with a "butterfly" online (say it in spanish; it means&lt;BR/&gt;faggot) and he tells me that in my photo i look more like a dark peruvian than chinese, that he has no interest in getting to know me because he´s racist and that there´s no way he would ever be interested in a facist&lt;BR/&gt;midget.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;all in spanish, mind you.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;....i really don´t want him/them to have that much power over me but this might be the last straw.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;if i could choose again i would NOT come to buenos aires.  it´s dandy with the bang-for-your-buck and all but frankly i´ve never had such an unpleasant experience abroad-- not in india, not in thailand, not in france,&lt;BR/&gt;not in puerto rico..... oh but yes, perhaps in rome (but it wasn´t race related).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;i´m sure there are nice people outside buenos aires.  and i CAN say that there are PLENTY of sweet and kind porteños within the city itself.  but i can´t say that the GENERAL vibe/arrogance in the air is far from suffocating. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;WHO pulls that shit after an economic meltdown of 2001 the sends your 1 peso:1 dollar down to 3 pesos:1 dollar???  if anything, the chilean economy is booming like mad right now but they don´t seem to have gigantic sticks&lt;BR/&gt;up theirrrr asses.  if anything, our lesson learnt today is this: the financial crisis of 2001 apparently wasn´t enough to humble Narcissus. perhaps they need another.  and with the way things are looking internally right now, the outlook is not very bright (at least not for them).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;i´m 99% sure that i won´t be staying here next semester.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;call me petty. call me weak. call me too dignified to suffer these&lt;BR/&gt;indignities.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;i am sorry."</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/115881231553630525'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/115881231553630525'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1158812280000#c115881231553630525' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-88984162'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-115876929991317006</id><published>2006-09-20T13:21:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-09-20T13:21:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>I was just reading this blog because it relates to...</title><content type='html'>I was just reading this blog because it relates to some of the negative experiences a friend of mine -- a gay Chinese-American from San Francisco -- is going through right now in BA.  It's interesting to get perspectives from people looking in on Argentinian society; outsiders always have a knack for spotting the best and the worst of a society (since for the most part native inhabitants become habituated to shared attitudes and outlooks, the common tropes, present in their own society).  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That being said, I have a question:  do white gay Argentines seem worse when it comes to racism and classism than your average Argentine?  My friend, when seeking dalliances on local gay websites, has had more than his fair share of putdowns and insults generated mostly because he's of Chinese descent.  Coming from San Francisco and New England, he's not accustomed to the bald-faced racism that he encounters almost every day in BA.  He's had so much of it that he's cutting his time in BA short and moving north to Sao Paulo, where racial diversity is greater.  It has seriously made me rethink the whole idea of visiting BA since I myself am a Latin American mestizo (another group Argentines like to exclude).  Between BA and Paris -- two cities I've been thinking of visiting this upcoming summer -- Paris probably deserves my tourist dollars more than BA, if only because they have more racial diversity and better museums. I shudder to think what ignominies I might suffer at the hands of supposed "non-racist" Argentines.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Your thoughts on this question, and on this matter in general, would be much appreciated.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/115876929991317006'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/115876929991317006'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1158769260000#c115876929991317006' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-78721704'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114542360417089203</id><published>2006-04-19T02:13:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-04-19T02:13:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>i just a huge ass comment and it just delted itsel...</title><content type='html'>i just a huge ass comment and it just delted itself word per word.. strange... &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;anyway, as a mestizo looking latin american I can attest to the eurofaniticsm.  ARgentine pride.. the national discourse is built upon the idea of a european superiority.  this country was built usurped the land and knowledge of pueblos de origen and served it on a plate to welathy landowners and later southern european immigrants, who to this day live the legacy and reap the benefits of racist immigration system.  On a personal note, I have been called ugly to my face... and experienced constant denigration of any production of culture of anything supposedly ethinically mestizo or mulatto... unless its  exoticized... just liek in the north... the system in the end, which privileges whte bodies, is the same one we have back home... it  just finds different ways of clutching on.. of maintaining the status quo... &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;  a ver si el movimiento indigenista de los andes nos libera de estas manos blancas traicioneras...</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114542360417089203'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114542360417089203'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1145423580000#c114542360417089203' title=''/><author><name>jagged411</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00892335584904492407</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-850485537'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114454660238778812</id><published>2006-04-08T22:36:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-04-08T22:36:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>This link might be useful, though it is in spanish...</title><content type='html'>This link might be useful, though it is in spanish:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etnograf%C3%ADa_de_Argentina&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It cites research by the University of Buenos Aires, that shows 56% of the argentinian population has at least one amerindian ancestor. This is not a "white" country. This is a very heavily mixed country, with a very high frequency of intermarriage. Americans may assume someone has only european ancestors, when that is not the case. But then, maybe americans are not used to the results of intermarriage. Jorge Luis Borges had amerindian ancestors. General Peron mother was amerindian. This is a very snob and classist country. Hardly a racist one.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114454660238778812'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114454660238778812'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1144546560000#c114454660238778812' title=''/><author><name>Javito</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1453514176'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114299943070027140</id><published>2006-03-22T00:50:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-03-22T00:50:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi! I'm surfing among you exprat blogger. It's rea...</title><content type='html'>Hi! I'm surfing among you exprat blogger. It's really interesting to see how you guy see us, aregntinians. Refering to this issue I was aked here in Indiana constantly about the racism discrimination and the population of my country. It was strange for me to answer, I was forced to put in words (what it's worst english words) what i felt and lived all  my life. Telling my friends here that my nickname was "negra" because i was "mestiza" surprised them.. but what  surprised them mostly, was that i didn;' care. Used to that class divisio my whole life I was forced to do more to demonstrate what eventually helped me.  But as I said explain how my country was formed by people of everywhere that we have "turcos", "tanos", "gallegos" and people  like me "negros" made  me aware of how difficult is to define an identity. I was born in the north of Argentina, Salta. More mestizo than any other place , the north has a complete different identity. Some mix od indigen culture,  old spanish and arabic is a unique place that is pretty different to teh Buenoso Aires you know. I recommend you to visit that place if you really want to know the whole Argentina.&lt;BR/&gt;ok I'm rumbling here, i just wante dto  thank you because i feel very well refekected in your descriptions!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114299943070027140'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114299943070027140'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1142999400000#c114299943070027140' title=''/><author><name>Adri</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07163118068312696056</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1819915525'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114158047963622680</id><published>2006-03-05T14:41:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-03-05T14:41:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>Why Ian, you budding sociologist! If you just add ...</title><content type='html'>Why Ian, you budding sociologist! If you just add "gender relations" to your query, you'd have the markings of a very thoughtful social stratification-ist (if that term exists). Living in a relatively homogeneous society now that takes pride in being very exclusionary and only letting immigrants in as guest-workers (whether low-skilled or high-skilled, it doesn't matter, we're all here to serve the purpose of promoting "their" country), it comes as no surprise that people all over the world (but I guess I've only really been to bits and pieces of that world),  are eager to draw lines. In this country (and you know where I am), your position in society is based on family/tribal affiliation--not on wealth (most are relatively wealthy), education (years of schooling can provide you with access to certain social welfare benefits), or even the tone of your skin (because that ranges remarkably within a family branch). One theory on ethnicity (see Barth), is that as social beings, we create the "other" (yes, that social construction of race that you mention) to help define ourselves. We are like a ceramic vase:  whatever is outside of the pottery is "them" and whatever is inside is "me".  If we throw a little "Matrix" pop-philosophy, we just aren't human beings unless we have a social order. May that be a socio-economic pecking order or a racial/ethnic/religious division, is up to us and how we've been socialized (whether by our society growing up, or by our self-edification). Anyway, that's enough of my digging into my comprehensive exam notes. As an aside, you should check out the history of miscegenation (sp?) in Latin America. Fascinating. There were whole books dedicated to the "art" of categorizing the people in Spanish colonies according to the amount of Spanish blood they had, since this had all kind of effect on land grants. Those early Spanish could be quite meticulous.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114158047963622680'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114158047963622680'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1141580460000#c114158047963622680' title=''/><author><name>Gabs</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1077409125'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114143731396215287</id><published>2006-03-03T22:55:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-03-03T22:55:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>Dan and I had a long discussion about this. I woul...</title><content type='html'>Dan and I had a long discussion about this. I would like to have one of my good friends come visit once we have settled in, but not only is he gay which probably isn't a huge problem, but he's black, albeit very well educated. I certainly would never want him to come and visit and experience racial discrimination, he can stay in Connecticut and experience that.&lt;BR/&gt;I have met many Argentines that clearly have a belief that they are better than "non-white" classes, but I've also met some very hip and forward thinking Argentines as well (typically of the younger generation). In Miami, most, but not all, think they're better than everyone else whether you're white and of their class or not.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114143731396215287'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114143731396215287'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1141437300000#c114143731396215287' title=''/><author><name>http://movingtoargentina.typepad.com</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14552795915447198220</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-2134463233'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114119229357897289</id><published>2006-03-01T02:51:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-03-01T02:51:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>I'm wondering whether "race" and "economic conditi...</title><content type='html'>I'm wondering whether "race" and "economic condition" can be separated from each other as different sources of discrimination. Don't most racist and racial discourses always point to a certain economic goal? (19th Century Argentine intellectuals wanting to get rid of blacks and indians so they could "progress") And don't they usually stem from an already existing economic inequality (Argentines supposedly discriminating against the "poor" minorities)? &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Most Argentines are absolutely convinced that they are not racist but this is only because the concept of "racism" as we know it has not reached Argentina yet. Ironically, the evidence that Argentines provide for their non-racism is that "there are only whites in Argentina anyway" so they couldn't possibly practice racism. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;On an individual level, Argentines do have racist ideas but this does not mean that will socially ostracize someone for being of a different race. My parents are Korean and I was born and raised in Buenos Aires.I never had trouble integrating to a 100% white community. Similarly, many Afro-argentines currently living in Buenos Aires have testified that they have no trouble leading a happy social life among white Argentines but that they constantly have to put up with racist comments from friends such as "Pero vos no sos realmente negro, sos argentino". I guess this could be interpreted in multiple levels...  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;On the other hand, racism on an institutional level has no ambiguities whatsoever. The Constitution of 1837 explicitly mentions the encouragement of European immigration and later on they added several laws that would regulate the entrance of non-Europeans or expel some that had managed to get in. Regarding the census Brandán was talking about (you are casi casi right), the census only started to include indigenous groups in the 90s (the 1990s, not 1890s) and the term Afro-argentine entered the census in the year 2005 under a pilot questionnaire. Another extreme case of institutionalized discrimination is that Argentines were only supposed to have first names whose etymology could be traced to be hispanic (or european maybe, not sure). (I'm a victim of this law...) If someone contested this, linguists were hired to settle the dispute. I've heard this law changed only a couple of years ago. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But all in all, it´s a great country to live in...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I too appologize for the long comment!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114119229357897289'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114119229357897289'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1141192260000#c114119229357897289' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1499458385'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114113254222850838</id><published>2006-02-28T10:15:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-02-28T10:15:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>There is an interesting article today in Página/12...</title><content type='html'>There is an interesting article today in Página/12 about the &lt;A HREF="http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpais/1-63669-2006-02-28.html/" REL="nofollow"&gt;supermercados chinos&lt;/A&gt; and racist advertising used by Carrefour, a French supermarket chain.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Also, Clarín ran on Sunday a suggestive, if poorly conceived article on discrimination. (I couldn't find the link).</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114113254222850838'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114113254222850838'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1141132500000#c114113254222850838' title=''/><author><name>Brandán Buenosayres</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04790876742255255439</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/5521/4199/320/quiltros.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1724105315'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114110525114249603</id><published>2006-02-28T02:40:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-02-28T02:40:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>I spent three months in BA during the BA winter of...</title><content type='html'>I spent three months in BA during the BA winter of 2001.  I was told by several Portenos that Argentina was free of racism.  So I posed the same question to other Portenos &amp; most said that it didn't exist. My unscientific conclusion was that these folks are in denial.  I speak fluent Spanish &amp; I felt and heard the racial tension constantly.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114110525114249603'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114110525114249603'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1141105200000#c114110525114249603' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1722136650'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114103682468217133</id><published>2006-02-27T07:40:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-02-27T07:40:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>I don't know Ian, while yes, there's obviously the...</title><content type='html'>I don't know Ian, while yes, there's obviously the class discrimination that you describe, I think the racism card is  played alot here. I get to experience it pretty regularly given that my boyfriend is mestizo - it's a constant in our lives, from the people in my building who were shocked that I appeared to be friendly with someone who was obviously "my servant," to immigration officials who stop and search him at the border, to portena/os who I've met and then introduced to him who refuse to include him in conversations as if he didn't exist, even when we're both sitting right there - not to mention their usual "surprise" that "one of them" works for living (at a job other than menial labor) and is college educated.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114103682468217133'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114103682468217133'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1141036800000#c114103682468217133' title=''/><author><name>SaltShaker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01976914613329554854</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-2021293478'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114090670396946349</id><published>2006-02-25T19:31:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-02-25T19:31:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>No need to apologize for the length of the comment...</title><content type='html'>No need to apologize for the length of the comment. Always happy to have long thoughtful dialogues, even if they are in the comment sections of a blog entry...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I'm fairly up to speed (though far less than you) on the history of race in Argentina and I wouldn't want to suggest that Argentina history is one of perfect homogeny. From the shame of using black Argentines as cannon fodder in the war with Paraguay to the &lt;A HREF="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000086&amp;sid=aE.5_2HHdVqA&amp;refer=latin_america" REL="nofollow"&gt;current fight&lt;/A&gt; between Benetton and the Mapuche in Patagonia, it's obvious that Argentina's past is not solely a European one.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;However, while that history does exist and while there currently are substantial numbers of Amerindian and mestizo people in Argentina (especially from Paraguay and Bolivia; I was down in Villa 20, in Lugano, reporting a story, and I think that villa is 60% Parguayo/Boliviano), my point is that Argentina is comparatively a weirdly homogenous place (compared to, say, the U.S.), especially in the Buenos Aires area. [&lt;A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Argentina" REL="nofollow"&gt;These stats&lt;/A&gt; may be wildly wrong--they're from the World Factbook and INDEC--but even if you jack up the minority population to account for undercounting, Argentina is still around 80-90% 'European'] &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That said, I find it interesting (as an American) to examine the common markers of discrimination in a country with different demographics than my own. It amazes me how openly some middle and upper class Argentines turn their noses up at the poor, something I think can only happen in a country where people don't have muche class mobility and therefore don't have many grandparents around who grew up substantially poorer than they now are (obviously there are exceptions to this and the U.S. has its own class issues, but in a general sense...).</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114090670396946349'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114090670396946349'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1140906660000#c114090670396946349' title=''/><author><name>Ian</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13226528619546192091</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-77483301'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114083438526720167</id><published>2006-02-24T23:26:00.000-03:00</published><updated>2006-02-24T23:26:00.000-03:00</updated><title type='text'>I apologize for the length of this comment – it al...</title><content type='html'>I apologize for the length of this comment – it all came tumbling out – but I hope it’ll be of some use.  &lt;BR/&gt;A look back at Argentine history shows that this is a nation that has gone to great lengths to whiten and Europeanize its blood stream. Race has a huge place in nineteenth century legal writing and literature - from Alberdi's 1852 "Bases," on which the Constitution of 1853 was largely based, to the epic Martín Fierro (there's a scene where the hero slices up a "negro" with both his wit and his knife), to José Mármol's novel Amalia (1851), which constantly depicts the blacks of Buenos Aires as grotesque and traitorous. &lt;BR/&gt;Buenos Aires, well until the middle of the nineteenth century, had a sizeable African population (well over 20%, I believe) – though the cattle raising interior had little need for a slave workforce like the US South. Many former slaves were sent off to the front lines during the war with Paraguay in the 1860s, many more emigrated to Uruguay and Brazil. For the last century and a half, there has been a sort of racial amnesia – I’m pretty sure that “Afro-argentine” didn’t appear on the national census until the 1980s. Yes, the twentieth century. &lt;BR/&gt;As far as indigenous go, there are certainly still many different populations throughout the country: Kolla, Aymara, Ranquel, Mapuche, Guaraní, etc. I live a block from the Plaza “Campaña del Desierto,” which commemorates the military campaign led by the to-be president Julio A. Roca in the 1870s and 80s. There was even a plan at the time to dig a 400km trench to keep the indigenous out of the province of Buenos Aires. &lt;BR/&gt;As far as present-day racism goes, there is plenty, though I think it is muffled by class distinctions. A few examples: think about how people treat and talk about the owners and workers of the “supermercados chinos,” which are everywhere. Menem was known as “el turco,” the Turk. Check out the documentary “Río arriba,” showing this weekend at the MALBA to learn about racism in the province of Salta. (It has English subtitles, curiously.) &lt;BR/&gt;Certainly there are fewer indigenous or mestizos in the social circles that professional American and European expats may frequent, but even in the capital or in Gran Buenos Aires, there are plenty of indigenous and mestizos, as well as immigrants from Perú, Bolivia, and other Latin American countries – who rarely receive the same hospitality as a dollar or euro-toting yanqui or gringo. &lt;BR/&gt;This may be a bit simplistic, but I would say that the repeated, almost compulsive insistence on this myth of Argentina as a racially homogenous society (particularly by upper and middle-class Argentines and disseminated as “news” by the most powerful media outlet of the country) serves to conceal many of the racial tensions that continue to exist in Argentina.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114083438526720167'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/114082293431797879/comments/default/114083438526720167'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html?showComment=1140834360000#c114083438526720167' title=''/><author><name>Brandán Buenosayres</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04790876742255255439</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/5521/4199/320/quiltros.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.goodairs.com/2006/02/discrimination-in-argentina.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10990830.post-114082293431797879' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/10990830/posts/default/114082293431797879' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1724105315'/></entry></feed>
